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Xunlai Master · Jul 12, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

I got 99.1% on Tyrian Cartographer on new char i made.. i've double checked serveral times n only places i havent cleaned on the map are 5 arenas.
Lions Arena (Island below Lions)
Jungle Arena (next to HoD)
Droknar Arena (next to Droknar)
Desert Arena (next to Amnoon)
Ember Arena (Island below Perdition Rock)

I tried random arena to clean the maps but it doesnt seemt to work. (i.e. i fought at those areas but it didn't clean the map)

How do i clean the maps in arena areas?

Also i was told that if u started the char in Tyrian u can't get 100% on Canthan Cartograper cos u can't access the pre area. I was told that access was only available during event. Is this true?

Fyre Brand · Jul 12, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45

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Also i was told that if u started the char in Tyrian u can't get 100% on Canthan Cartograper cos u can't access the pre area. I was told that access was only available during event. Is this true?

It's true that you did get .1 or .2% mapping credit for the event area, but it's not true that you can't get 100% Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer.

Arenas don't count towards your mapping title. The only part of the Arenas that count towards the title is the initial entry areas (in Ascalon and Yaks for example) before you map into the actual arena battle itself. It's been said before by several others places with no mapping (UW, FoW, Sorrows Furnace) along with pre-searing in Tyria don't count towards the title.

Places that are easily overlooked are some mission bonus areas. The area behind the first post sear mission where all the charr pour out of gives you alot of mapping %. There is a little bit of leeway to get to 100%. That is you don't need an absolute value of 100% to get to 100%. Some people have a couple cloudy corners and still have the 100%.

fenix · Jul 12, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

From what I can see, you have this to explore:

West of Frost Gate, the path Rurik walks on
Small bits North and South in Ice Caves

I dunno though, I think the best bet it to put your map on the Tyrian's Explorers League section for a comparison map to be made. Other than that, Tyrians can get 100% of Cantha, and visa versa, due to an update. Tyrians can get to the Shing Jea island, and do every mission, just won't get the rewards.

Xunlai Master · Jul 12, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Firstly thanks for the quick replies, i really hope u guys are right.

Fyre Brand;
I know wat u mean, i did first mission like 3 times to clean the map in charr area n near the bridge. Did same with many other missions. I used this 100% map(http://www.gwonline.net/images/carto...ia_map_big.jpg) as my reference n my map looks identical to that except for the 5 arena areas. (i've marked 5 arena areas on the attachement in my first post)

N i just found out about this yesterday;
Exploration title track (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Title)
All areas that do show up on the main map of Tyria/Cantha count for this title. This excludes areas without a map, like The Underworld, The Fissure of Woe, the Ruins of the Tomb of the Primeval Kings, the Dragon's Lair mission, the Dragon's Throat Challenge Mission, and the Elite Missions (The Deep and Urgoz's Warren). Also excluded are areas with a seperate map, like PvP content that is located on the Battle Isles or Pre-Searing. However, PvP arenas that are located in Tyria, like the Ascalon Arena and the Shiverpeak Arena (or Shing Jea Arena for in Cantha) do count. Old Tyrian arenas, that are no longer reachable count too. However, there is a little leeway granted for reaching these titles. Players do not have to actually uncover every last corner of the map to reach 100%.

talon;
I'm pretty sure i got those parts cleaned but i'll check again thanks.
n yer i'll post my detailed map on Tyrian's Explorers League section, never been to that section hehe.

Vahn Roi · Jul 12, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

wow, Tyria sure is clean-cut....

Xunlai Master · Jul 12, 2006, 05:44 AM // 05:44

woot 99.3% now

Thanks talon, u were spot on. I got 0.1% from above ice tooth n another 0.1% below ice tooth.

i'll change my 2nd prof to necro n do the Frost Gate again. maybe i can get extra 0.1% or 0.2% there.

But I still think remaining 0.5% - 0.7% are arenas tho..

Slainster · Jul 12, 2006, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Dunes of Despair, bottom left doesnt look complete on your 2nd map... Ive completed my masters without any of the arenas, Im busy putting a map together, just taking me a bit longer than I hoped, there are a couple of 100% maps on the forums that can help though, I referenced 2 to complete mine. So keep on, it can be done!

Xunlai Master · Jul 12, 2006, 07:04 AM // 07:04

Slainster, so u got 100% on Tyria without arena areas??

Yes for the Dunes map i dont think its possible to get there. 100% map i used as reference(link above) also didnt have that part cleaned. Attached is detailed pic of Dunes.

Edit:
Ok just did FrostGate again... n did the runik's pass n got extra 0.1% at the end of the pass. so I'm at 99.4% now.

Xunlai Master · Jul 12, 2006, 11:36 AM // 11:36

After spending hours on FrostGate to get extra 0.1%.. it took even longer to clean the bottom left corner on Dunes. I thought it wasnt possible but i was wrong. Unfortunately i'm Still at 99.4% after cleaning bottom left in Dunes.

Attached is my latest map, can any1 find the missing 0.6%?

Slainster · Jul 12, 2006, 12:23 PM // 12:23

yes I did! I have promised to post a close up of my map asap.. ill get working on it again this weekend!

botttom corner of dunes can be done, may not net much, but if you dont have the arena's then you will need it.

Mournblade · Jul 12, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09

I've got 100% w/o arenas also. My map is posted in the thread in the Tyrian Explorers League if you want to compare them. Or if you ask nicely, i'm sure Dougal can do a difference map comparison for you.

Kook~NBK~ · Jul 12, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24

I've got my 100% without arenas, as well. The best thing you can do at this point is to get the map comparison done. It'll show those pesky little .1 (or less) places that you can't make out with the naked eye.

Don't forget that towns count in the total, too. There's a few that have nice little spots tucked away that serve no real purpose.

Cherno · Jul 12, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24

I got 100% without the arenas and without Rurik's walking area. You might think you got it all but there is a lot of spider crawling you will have to do to get the last little percentages. Best way to be 100% sure if you think you have an area clear is go to the thread in the Tyrian Explorers league subforum here and look at how they did the comparison maps to show you all the tiny spots you missed.

Ariana Of Damia · Jul 12, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Did you get Both Local and Foreign Vezunah Square??
I found that in order to get 100% I had to go with a Foreign Group and get into the Foreign Vezunah Square, that is how I got my 100%. Obviously if you are Tyrian Char you will need to get into the Local Vezunah, and you can do that by getting into a group with primarily "Local" chars and Vice Versa

Mournblade · Jul 12, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

Kinda hard to get Vizunah Local OR Foreign when you're mapping Tyria. :\

Xunlai Master · Jul 12, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Ok i did Abaddon's Mouth again cos my map at the bottom of the mission near the seer had bit of cloud even tho i went over that part b4.. anyway didnt clean much map but got extra 0.1%.

so i'm at 99.5% now.

I really hope Dougal can help me find last 0.5%..

bog boy · Jul 12, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

i wish i had 100% but i will probs never get it :S

CKaz · Jul 12, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

OK I made a new [Canthan] survivor monk and sick of the preliminary mission (3 in a party killing mantids w/o scrolls, nah I'd rather do solo) I skipped it.

This was also post dragon festival (the original wasnt, the redo was :b lol).

Soooo... can my guy here still get 100% or will that area preclude him from doing so/do I have to hope for an event that wil let me in there again?

thanks for any help

TheDriftingSoul · Jul 12, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Yes, he can still get 100%. That area is worth roughly .3% and is not required to get 100%.

Xunlai Master · Jul 12, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

99.6% now, found 0.1% at storage area in Thunderhead Keep mission.

now can anyone spot the missing 0.4%?

Jul 12, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08	#4
Xunlai Master Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Serenity Temple Profession: W/	Firstly thanks for the quick replies, i really hope u guys are right. Fyre Brand; I know wat u mean, i did first mission like 3 times to clean the map in charr area n near the bridge. Did same with many other missions. I used this 100% map(http://www.gwonline.net/images/carto...ia_map_big.jpg) as my reference n my map looks identical to that except for the 5 arena areas. (i've marked 5 arena areas on the attachement in my first post) N i just found out about this yesterday; Exploration title track (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Title) All areas that do show up on the main map of Tyria/Cantha count for this title. This excludes areas without a map, like The Underworld, The Fissure of Woe, the Ruins of the Tomb of the Primeval Kings, the Dragon's Lair mission, the Dragon's Throat Challenge Mission, and the Elite Missions (The Deep and Urgoz's Warren). Also excluded are areas with a seperate map, like PvP content that is located on the Battle Isles or Pre-Searing. However, PvP arenas that are located in Tyria, like the Ascalon Arena and the Shiverpeak Arena (or Shing Jea Arena for in Cantha) do count. Old Tyrian arenas, that are no longer reachable count too. However, there is a little leeway granted for reaching these titles. Players do not have to actually uncover every last corner of the map to reach 100%. talon; I'm pretty sure i got those parts cleaned but i'll check again thanks. n yer i'll post my detailed map on Tyrian's Explorers League section, never been to that section hehe. Last edited by Xunlai Master; Jul 12, 2006 at 04:01 AM // 04:01..

Jul 12, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28	#18
CKaz Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2005	Cantha 100%? OK I made a new [Canthan] survivor monk and sick of the preliminary mission (3 in a party killing mantids w/o scrolls, nah I'd rather do solo) I skipped it. This was also post dragon festival (the original wasnt, the redo was :b lol). Soooo... can my guy here still get 100% or will that area preclude him from doing so/do I have to hope for an event that wil let me in there again? thanks for any help

Jul 12, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46	#3
fenix Major-General Awesome Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&# Profession: W/	From what I can see, you have this to explore: West of Frost Gate, the path Rurik walks on Small bits North and South in Ice Caves I dunno though, I think the best bet it to put your map on the Tyrian's Explorers League section for a comparison map to be made. Other than that, Tyrians can get 100% of Cantha, and visa versa, due to an update. Tyrians can get to the Shing Jea island, and do every mission, just won't get the rewards.

Jul 12, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23	#5
Vahn Roi Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: [HiDE]	wow, Tyria sure is clean-cut....

Jul 12, 2006, 06:24 AM // 06:24	#7
Slainster Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006	Dunes of Despair, bottom left doesnt look complete on your 2nd map... Ive completed my masters without any of the arenas, Im busy putting a map together, just taking me a bit longer than I hoped, there are a couple of 100% maps on the forums that can help though, I referenced 2 to complete mine. So keep on, it can be done!

Jul 12, 2006, 12:23 PM // 12:23	#10
Slainster Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006	yes I did! I have promised to post a close up of my map asap.. ill get working on it again this weekend! botttom corner of dunes can be done, may not net much, but if you dont have the arena's then you will need it.

Jul 12, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09	#11
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	I've got 100% w/o arenas also. My map is posted in the thread in the Tyrian Explorers League if you want to compare them. Or if you ask nicely, i'm sure Dougal can do a difference map comparison for you.

Jul 12, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24	#12
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	I've got my 100% without arenas, as well. The best thing you can do at this point is to get the map comparison done. It'll show those pesky little .1 (or less) places that you can't make out with the naked eye. Don't forget that towns count in the total, too. There's a few that have nice little spots tucked away that serve no real purpose.

Jul 12, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24	#13
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	I got 100% without the arenas and without Rurik's walking area. You might think you got it all but there is a lot of spider crawling you will have to do to get the last little percentages. Best way to be 100% sure if you think you have an area clear is go to the thread in the Tyrian Explorers league subforum here and look at how they did the comparison maps to show you all the tiny spots you missed.

Jul 12, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08	#14
Ariana Of Damia Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: ♥ Aurelio Furor ♥	Did you get Both Local and Foreign Vezunah Square?? I found that in order to get 100% I had to go with a Foreign Group and get into the Foreign Vezunah Square, that is how I got my 100%. Obviously if you are Tyrian Char you will need to get into the Local Vezunah, and you can do that by getting into a group with primarily "Local" chars and Vice Versa

Jul 12, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12	#15
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	Kinda hard to get Vizunah Local OR Foreign when you're mapping Tyria. :\

Jul 12, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19	#17
bog boy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: pxks Profession: R/E	i wish i had 100% but i will probs never get it :S

Jul 12, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30	#19
TheDriftingSoul Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago Guild: Adventurer's Association Profession: Mo/	Yes, he can still get 100%. That area is worth roughly .3% and is not required to get 100%.